Our Go2Thrive podcast guest today is Lisa Dempsey. Lisa is a leadership coach, passionate about connecting leadership culture and innovation. Her caption on LinkedIn reads ‘thrive’. So, she’s in the right place to share her thoughts on this topic today.

The main question of this interview:

What Are The Building Blocks Of Leaders Who Thrive?

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We asked Lisa the following questions:

  • A quote from an article you wrote: “Artificial intelligence won’t replace H.R. people but H.R. people who use artificial intelligence will replace those who don’t.” Why is it important for thriving workplaces and especially H.R. teams to become more digital?
  • Can you share some examples about what kind of areas in HR digital tools will be efficient?
  • What does courage, curiosity and connection have to do with leadership?
  • Can you share with us your definition of leadership?
  • What are the common denominators that bind those who lead thriving teams and organizations?
  • What can we do to change the perspective, change the vision that we have of leadership?
  • Who you see as a role model for leadership and why?
  • Could we easily point fingers, and we won’t do that, to really great examples of bad leadership/toxic leadership?
  • What is your vision of the future for thriving workplaces/work spaces?

Interview highlights

  • Everybody needs to become familiar with technology and this crazy VUCA, digital world that we live in, in order to continue to stay relevant. (V = Volatile    U = Uncertain    C = Complex   A = Ambiguous)
  • There’s already a lot of evidence that introducing some artificial intelligence and algorithms into a recruitment process can help remove some unconscious bias.

At the end of the day we remain people and we like storytelling. So H.R. needs to better learn how to use that data and information and translate that into stories that can really impact the way people work together.

  • When you have the courage to let go of that knowing, you can step into the place of curiosity.
  • That’s about getting really curious about what’s going on, what your impact is on the world, what’s going on with the people around you. What is their impact? And what it is that you can co-create together?
  • There is a magic that happens of a genuine connection where you can create more with – to genuinely create a sum total that is greater than its parts.

Courage, curiosity and connection:  those are the building blocks of really stepping into leadership and to lead yourself to great things.

  • When you’re able to lead yourself and you’re able to connect to other people that is the place where you are able to unleash all of that great potential and talent.
  • Leadership has nothing to do with hierarchy. Leadership is outside of hierarchy.
  • Continuing to remind people and challenge them when they are confusing management measures with genuine leadership.
  • We need to have a sense of autonomy, the sense of belonging and the sense of being able to contribute to something that is bigger than ourselves. And you can’t do that when you are sidelined and told to wait.
  • We like to put people on a pedestal and then somehow hold them to a standard that is greater than us and a standard of perfection that doesn’t exist.

I would remind people that nobody shows up in their role, to do a bad job. Nobody wakes up on any given day and says I want to make a variety of mistakes today. I want to do my job poorly today.

  • People don’t know what they don’t know. That’s why I think it’s so important to continue to raise awareness and challenge people when they do make poor leadership decisions.
  • If you’re not able to create an environment where there is psychological safety, where people can ask questions,  can share feedback, then you aren’t a leader.

Thanks to Lisa Dempsey for joining us in this episode!

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Lisa Dempsey on LinkedIn
Lisa’s website Leadership Labs International

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